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This was a bit of a primer for me on Covenant Theology most of the books I've read from CTers have focused more on the eschatological implications , even though this book was intended more for those already in the CT camp. Denault compares and contrasts the Presbyterian paedobaptist and Baptist credobaptist views, and does so ably and succinctly. As a dispensationalist, I didn't always agree with his conclusions, although I found much we have in common theologically.
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I'm looking forward to This was a bit of a primer for me on Covenant Theology most of the books I've read from CTers have focused more on the eschatological implications , even though this book was intended more for those already in the CT camp. I'm looking forward to reading more by this modern crop of Baptist Covenant Theologians, so that I can further understand their interpretation of the Word of God we both hold dear.
Good on the Whole In my opinion, the work is a good introduction to the issues, but suffers from a lack of clarity in a few locations. Also, certain points are left without sufficient explanation. The reader ought to write down questions that remain and continue the search for the answers to those questions after finishing this work. Denault provides a fantastic starting point for that. Greatly increased my appreciation of being member of a church, and the rich and deep theological tradition that comes with it.
By helping me to better grasp the relations and contents of the different covenants, it also benefitted greatly to my Bible reading and understanding of the Biblical narrative as a whole. May 28, Brad rated it really liked it. Despite some typos and repetitive argumentation, this is a good and compelling book! Jul 14, Scott Head rated it it was amazing Shelves: christian-themes.
Denault's work is really quite a historical one.
It is one of the first to clearly set down a complete exposition of the very lost Reformed Baptist position on covenant, and its resulting practical applications. Drawing from particular Baptist roots in the 17th century, Denault very thoroughly - and with brotherly fairness and respect - lays down the views of the various reformed traditions with skill. He then compares them, showing most convincingly the inconsistencies of the Presbyterian and Denault's work is really quite a historical one. He then compares them, showing most convincingly the inconsistencies of the Presbyterian and Continental views of 'one covenant under many administrations.
Many have made efforts, Greg Nichol's work on Baptist covenant theology comes to mind. But these are usually reduced down to Presbyterian covenant theology with a Baptist twist. Denault actually goes to the sources and shows that the Baptist view of new covenant was not only distinct, but a mature and complete outflow of the Reformation. This book is a must-read, sometimes it is dense, yet careful reading will turn up fallow ground and bring forth the Baptist tradition lost to two centuries of oppression and neglect.
This is one of the top ten books that I would recommend to any Reformed Baptist, and even our Presbyterian brethren will find this a useful read to understand our differences. If you read this honestly you'll see that theology is really just proto-New Covenant theology. Denault talks about the Baptists just wanting to remain unified with Presbyterians and therefore using a lot of their material. In reality, I realized that they just didn't want to admit to the logical outcome of their theology- abrogation of all Old Testament law. In the New Covenant all Old Covenant law must be done away with- follow that logically and yes, you no longer have to baptize infants, but you also must do away with the Ten Commandments as Old Testament law.
The logic is simple. The best thing this book did for me was convince me that I was wrong for ever thinking anything other than being Presbyterian could be possible. So what is New Covenant theology? It's really a half-way house between Presbyterian theology and Dispensationalism. But at least, unlike Federalism, NCT is internally insistent with itself.
While shorter than I anticipated, the author does a fine job laying out the differences between Presbyterian and Baptist covenant theology as it was known in the 17th century. The brevity of the text is helpful as the author makes his comparisons and points clearly without overwhelming the reader. I do however wish that he would have spent more time discussing the New Covenant, specifically in relation to certain "warning passages" in Scripture that Presbyterians use to show the ability to break While shorter than I anticipated, the author does a fine job laying out the differences between Presbyterian and Baptist covenant theology as it was known in the 17th century.
I do however wish that he would have spent more time discussing the New Covenant, specifically in relation to certain "warning passages" in Scripture that Presbyterians use to show the ability to break the NC by lacking the required regenerative wrought faith that it requires. Some of the discussions were over my head so this will definitely be a text that I will refer back to in the future as my knowledge of Scripture and historical theology grows.
Nov 16, Abby Jones rated it really liked it. Well, this may be the first book this in-depth and technical that I've managed to finish! Denault's writing is easy to read and fairly easy to follow, though I think sitting through several of his lectures during our conference last year helped.
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I don't think this book would necessarily convince a Pedobaptist to become a Baptist, but it is very encouraging to someone of like mind I'm thankful for the work Denault put into researching and tracking the Baptist distinctiveness. I don't Well, this may be the first book this in-depth and technical that I've managed to finish! I don't think I followed every argument, but I followed more than I expected. I would highly recommend this book to those looking for their Baptist roots, and for those seeking to understand the covenants.
Oct 28, Ryan Jankowski rated it really liked it Shelves: theology-covenantalism.
This is undoubtedly the best presentation of the baptistic approach to the old and new covenant. The argumentation is not persuasive, but if you want to understand baptist federalism, this is the place to go. Apr 09, Brian rated it really liked it. This is a fantastic overview of reformed baptistic theology. It really is a live option, and the fact that the baptists insist on two covenants, one conditional and the other unconditional, will probably get a rise in reformed circles soon. The Biblical Theology is on their side. This was a very helpful book for me, since reformed baptist theology actually takes its cues from John Owen's understanding of the covenant largely his commentary on Hebrews which seems to imply strongly This is a fantastic overview of reformed baptistic theology.
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This was a very helpful book for me, since reformed baptist theology actually takes its cues from John Owen's understanding of the covenant largely his commentary on Hebrews which seems to imply strongly bi-covenantalism and I really am now very suspicious of covenantal theology in general. Theologians have been described as people who have a box of puzzle pieces and at times they try to make certain pieces fit but they don't quite fit and so they fudge. I think this happens a lot with covenantal theology, since it spans large swaths of history and ways of understanding different chunks of the Bible including the way the old and new covenants relate and since it involves a lot of practical matters how much old covenant should be transferred or taken as normative.
Baptizing babies would be enough by itself to make everybody lose their minds, but add the sabbath and you have a recipe for over-polemicized theologizing. I come away from the book open to credobaptism for the first time in my life, and I want to believe that the whole issue is adiaphora. Plague on both your houses: we have more important things to theologize about and more important things to fight about in our culture. Let's not get distracted about this. Mar 27, Dave rated it liked it.
Denault gives his "initial objective [as being] to bring out the differences between paedobaptist covenant theology in the seventeenth century and that of their Baptist contemporaries". That aim he suceeds in doing and in this regard this work is a useful piece of historical work. The book does, however, have a secondary aim as a polemical work to support the position that is now called Federalism and discredit the WCF position.
There are a few issues here: 1 The secondary aim distracts from Denault gives his "initial objective [as being] to bring out the differences between paedobaptist covenant theology in the seventeenth century and that of their Baptist contemporaries". There are a few issues here: 1 The secondary aim distracts from the primary aim of the work. While the historical work is well evidenced - the reader is left with a clear concept of 17th Century Particular Baptist thought on the covenants - the polemic work is much less so, and it shows.
An example of this is the assertion that paedobaptists shaped their theology around their prior conclusion that paedobaptism is correct.
This is asserted several times and the work concludes with "we are faced with a marked impression If that impression is there it would be because of the repetition of the assertion, even though the assertion is not sufficiently demonstrated. Most of the points rest on nuance so affording the paedobaptists a paragraph of response is insufficient. Jan 21, Joshua Branch rated it really liked it.
The Distinctiveness of Baptist Covenant Theology by Pascal Denault
The aim of this book is to demonstrate that Baptists and Presbyterians are not divided on infant baptism for infant baptism's sake, but rather because of their fundamental views on covenant theology. Essentially the book succeeds in persuasively demonstrating this truth. For those who are interested in why there is the distinction between these two powerhouses in Protestantism, this book ably covers the history, context, and reasons for the divide between the two overarching denominations, and The aim of this book is to demonstrate that Baptists and Presbyterians are not divided on infant baptism for infant baptism's sake, but rather because of their fundamental views on covenant theology.
For those who are interested in why there is the distinction between these two powerhouses in Protestantism, this book ably covers the history, context, and reasons for the divide between the two overarching denominations, and though the author takes a side in the debate, it at least allows for one to choose a side. Though written in the style of a dissertation, it is accessible enough for a keen reader without much background knowledge, though it may be inaccessible to a casual layperson. I may only read this book one or two more times in my life, but I will certainly recommend it to dozens more.
Aug 23, Paul rated it liked it. What does it take to read your Bible covenantally and stay baptist? Pascal Denault can teach you everything you need to believe. I have strong differences with the book and probably earlier than Denault thinks a Presbyterian would disagree , but it's an excellent resource if you would like to learn the ins and outs of the covenant theology system taught by the Baptist London Confession. Bold claims are made, but they need to be made, or else the author wouldn't be a confessional Baptist. I What does it take to read your Bible covenantally and stay baptist?
I would not recommend it for those who want to learn the covenant theology of the Westminster Confession on its own terms. Jul 14, Dylan Justus rated it really liked it. A great introductory to Reformed Baptist Covenant Theology. Though it is short, it is invaluable. It left me with unanswered questions, not because it is poorly written or vague, but because it caused me to think broadly and to seek answers in other solid books. Whether you are a baptist looking to understand Covenant Theology from a historical baptist perspective or you are a Presbyterian or other theological conviction exploring Baptist theology, I recommend this book wholeheartedly!
It will wet your appetite to explore the subject more deeply. Sep 28, Matthew Prydden rated it really liked it Shelves: general-theology. This is an excellent comparison of 17th century Particular Baptist Covenant theology and its Paedobaptist Federalism counterpart. The aim of the book is to bring out the reformed heritage of Baptist thought over against the Baptist slide into Arminianism and Dispensationalism in the 20th century.
This heritage was presented with great clarity and reasonably fair arguments, and was very enlightening on the subject of Covenant Theology. Apr 03, Josh rated it liked it Shelves: theology.